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@reto @tim I agree that we should learn to feel more comfortable with solitude. But people need people: it’s biologically wired into us as a social species. ‘Mastodon’ is a perfect example of that need for others. But it’s always a mixed bag. You might connect with people who are supportive, but you’ll have to put up with a bunch of shit in the process.

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Indeed. One of the reason I favour this instance is because of being to meet and connect with even maybe less than a handful of people on a similar wavelength.

Less noise regarding poltics, foss, gender, etc.

I find that meeting IRL is the ideal.

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I don't really have the time or energy to find dedicated groups, so have picked up and studied mainly-tao through books and my own contemplation. It's difficult to find a good taoist sage in Sussex 😁

That said, it's been helpful (essential?) to learn through a mix of people and settings. I take a mixed approach - various online forums (usually dip in and out temporarily), tai chi teachers (online and IRL), and friends with similar interests.

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I sort of treat it as 'theft' - but in a legal sense. If the fundamental nature is everywhere, it makes sense to look for it wherever and however you can, and keep what you find.

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Also, just getting out into the air and stopping and paying attention is one of the best teachers.

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Feeling lonely is only temporary suffering. There are always birdsongs and clouds and your heartbeat and invented symbols to keep you company, wherever you are 🙃

@ShaunBartone yeah, I know what you mean. It's what we are all looking for: a bit of company and love.
But again It makes me wonder... if the Buddha found freedom from suffering alone, shouldn't we be able to do it too?
and if we can't then maybe something is not right? are we now biological species or are we more?
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@scribe nothing really, that's what I'm trying 😄
can tell you later maybe how it turned out 😊
currently it's quite hard, almost constant sadness because of the loneliness, but it's a lot better compared to when I would feel just depressed and the sadness was not conscious (many years it had been like that)
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The things is, we are not the Buddha (or at least not the body / mind of the being who was given that). Therefore, we may experience whatever it was he experienced via a very different route, and in very different circumstances

Everyone is seeking externally for the love they already are, which is waiting to be realised, how every distorted that search may look.

Yes, humanly we are wired to companion with others, but that's at a different "level".

@tim the thing is, I suspect that most of the human suffering/unrest is rooted in a feeling of loneliness. but people are not aware of it because they don't spend time with themselves, taking care of themselves. the effect is all the noise and problems we see around us. being never satisfied and unable to plug the hole inside. running to and fro from one thrill to the next, constantly in need of distraction and excitement
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@scribe 😄 but maybe it's the other way 'round. capitalism is here because of that 🙃
the tendency of people to distract themselves from their suffering creates an industry to help them with the distraction. it's a vicious cycle. the question would be: how can it be reversed? what would be a way to break the vicious cycle? because that cycle is probably going to destroy our planet...
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